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It was a relatively clear Saturday afternoon, my girlfriend and I were at the local High School (San Pasqual High) getting ready to jog on their track. We were on top of the hill that overlooks the stadium when we saw a bright star-like object approach from the East. As it came closer its shape became more apparent, more boomerang shaped but very smooth. The top side was made of what appeared to be a highly reflective gold colored metal. The bottom of the object was the color of dull bronze and didn't really seem to reflect the light.
I had my backpack with me and luckily inside it was my camera, so in haste I quickly retrieved my camera and ran closer to the object. It made absolutely no sound and it initially moved very slowly. Too slow for an airplane to fly. As it approached us the object banked to the north and after about 30 seconds reversed it's direction revealing it's side to us. We watched if for some time as it banked back and forth, then all of a sudden it tipped it's nose to about a 45 degree angle and quickly ascended out of sight. It was completely out of sight after about three seconds. I wasn't afraid when I saw the object, just fascinated by its erratic movements and it's beauty. It truly was a beautiful thing to behold. MUFON Submitter 7257 www.mufon.com
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Poster's Name WithheldTom Carey and Donald Schmitt's new book, Witness To Roswell just came out, which I just received from Amazon.com. As the name attests, the book focuses on witness testimony, and Carey and Schmitt have a slew of new witnesses to report, including a few first-hand accounts of seeing the alien bodies. There are also a ton of second-hand alien body stories, plus a few to seeing the spacecraft either out at the crash site or in the Hangar 84/P-3 at the base. The hangar is the focus of many of the accounts, seemingly being the centralized collection point for the debris, craft, and bodies for further processing and transport out of the base. The number of reports on alien bodies was surprising to me, including several of a live alien. I had no idea there was so much testimony along these lines. The prize witness is Walter Haut, as most of us know, the Roswell base public information officer, who put out Colonel Blanchard's recovered flying disc press release on July 8, 1947. Haut in 2002 filled out a notarized affidavit, to be sealed until after his death. Here the affidavit is revealed in full. Haut, as he first did in an oral history with Wendy Connors and Dennis Balthaser in 2000, reveals seeing the crash object and several small bodies with big heads at Hangar 84, being taken there by Col. Blanchard. This was on Tuesday, July 8 in the afternoon, after the press release had hit the wires. Haut also reveals first hearing about the Brazel debris field and another crash location 40 miles to the north, where the main craft and bodies were, on Monday afternoon, July 7, after returning to the base from home after the 4th of July weekend. The northern site had just been found by civilians and rumors of the two sites were beginning to break out in town and on the base. The following morning at 7:30, Haut attended the senior staff morning meeting where everybody was briefed as to what was happening. Marcel and Cavitt described their findings at the Brazel debris field and Blanchard filled in everybody on the second crash site. Haut also states Gen. Ramey and Col. Dubose were there, meaning they had flown in from Fort Worth. Debris was passed around for everybody to handle and nobody could identify it. Much of the meeting was devoted to discussing how to handle the situation and what the public should be told. Here Haut discusses some of the rationale behind the issuing of the puzzling press release. According to Haut, it was Gen. Ramey's idea to divert public attention away from the closer and more important craft/body site. Haut felt Ramey was just carrying out orders from the Pentagon. Haut also states he went out to at least one of the sites and brought back some debris of his own. He was aware of two teams that went out for months afterwards to try to uncover any physical evidence that might have been left behind. Although he doesn't say it, Haut is here providing some corroboration for various tales of debris confiscation afterwards, such as told by Bill Brazel Jr. Haut's affidavit plus other testimony below revives the crash site 40 miles of north of Roswell where the main craft and bodies were found. Haut also presents a new timeline of the discovery of the site on July 7, which means recovery began at this site at the same time Marcel and Cavitt were out at the Brazel debris field investigating it. Another prize eyewitness is Sgt. Frederick Benthal. He was F.B. in Crash At Corona, but here he is identified publicly for the first time (or to me anyway). Benthal was the Army photographer flown in from Washington, taken out to the body site, and who photographed the alien bodies in a tent, with everybody else cleared out. Corroborating this was a first/second-hand account from an MP at the site, PFC Ed Sain. He stated he was taken out to the site in one of the ambulances and ordered to shoot anybody who tried to enter a particular tent. His son said his father didn't like to talk about it, but had told him he had guarded the bodies in the tent until they were transported to the base. Sain indicated that another MP, Cpl. Raymond Van Why, had gone out with him to the site. Van Why's widow, Leola, said her husband first talked about it in 1954 when he got out of the service. He told her that he had been a guard at a crash site and had seen the round spacecraft. Sgt. Homer Rowlette was with the 603rd Air Engineering Squadron. His son Larry and daughter Carlene Green said he told them about it on his deathbed in March 1988. He was part of the cleanup detail sent to the impact site north of Roswell. He handled the infamous "memory foil" described by many others. He described the ship as "somewhat circular" and said he had seen "three little people" with large heads. At least one was alive (just one of the 'live alien' stories). PFC Rolland Menagh was another MP at the site, according to sons Michael and Rolland Jr. He described the ship as egg-shaped and seamless. Michael recalled him describing three dead bodies. His father said they loaded the ship onto an 18-wheeler and covered it with a tarp. He escorted it in a jeep as they drove it through the center of town to the base and deposited it in a hangar. This brings us back to Roswell base. S. Sgt. Earl Fulford saw his close friend, S. Sgt. George Houck, drive off at 5:00 a.m. July 8 in a low-boy truck, which he presumed was to pick up some wreckage, one of his standard duties. Fulford was an aircraft mechanic who often worked at Hangar 84. During the day civilian mechanics from town kept questioning him about the rumored spaceship with little spacemen. At 4:00 p.m. as he left duty, Fulford saw Houck returning towing a lowboy trailer and carrying a tarped object about the size and shape of a VW Beetle. Houck refused to tell him what was under the tarp, saying he had been ordered not to say. When Fulford tried to get him to talk in the present-day, Houck still refused to talk about it. There was even more to Fulford's story. The next day he said he was "volunteered" to be part of a work detail of 15-20 men taken out to what we call the Brazel debris field to finish cleaning it up. They were given burlap bags and ordered to pick up anything "not natural". He described an area hundreds of yards in extent and, like other witnesses, said it was ringed with MPs. He said it had obviously been cleaned up before, because there wasn't much left, and he could see tire tracks from big trucks that had been there hauling things away. He said he found only 7 pieces, and described picking up and handling, like so many other witnesses, the "memory foil" that returned to its original shape. When he got back to the base, he was awakened at 2:00 a.m. the next morning and ordered out to Hangar P-3. He was also a forklift operator and was ordered to load a wooden crate, 7 feet square, into an idling C-54. It handled as if whatever was inside weighed very little. Back at Roswell base, everything centers on Hangar 84/P-3. Another eyewitness MP, PFC Elias Benjamin, described being ordered to pick up his gun and go out to Hangar P-3 for guard duty on the morning of July 8. He noticed unusually heavy activity around base headquarters. When he got to the hangar, the officer who had ordered him there was being subdued by MPs. He later found out he had been to the crash site, but when he saw the bodies at the hangar he had flipped out. Benjamin said he was placed in charge of escorting 3 or 4 bodies covered with sheets to the base hospital. One of them appeared to be moving. One of the sheets slipped and he saw a grayish face and large hairless head of something that wasn't human. When he got to the hospital and the sheets were removed, he got a much better view of one of the bodies and gave a familiar description of small body, large egg-shaped head, slanted eyes, slit mouth, and two holes for a nose. He thought it was alive and saw the doctors working on it. Afterwards, he was debriefed, forced to sign a non-disclosure statement, and told if he ever talked about it very bad things would happen to him and his family. He still feared he would lose his pension. His wife, who encouraged him to go public, said he first told her the story in 1949 when they were married. At the hospital, Miriam 'Andrea' Bush, 27, was a secretary to the hospital administrator Lt. Col. Harold Warne. According to her brother George and sister Jean, she came home one night in a state of total shock. Finally she said that there were a lot of strange medical personnel at the hospital she didn't recognize. Later Warne would take her to an examination room and she saw several small childlike bodies. One was moving. (Another live alien story) Their skin was greyish to brown and they were covered in something like white linens. Their heads and eyes were large. The next day she came home and said nobody was ever to say anything further about it. The family thought she had been very heavily threatened. They said the event so traumatized her that it ruined her life. She died under suspicious circumstances in 1989, with bruises covering her arms, but ruled a suicide by suffocating herself with plastic bag tied round her head. It is conceivable that mortician Glenn Dennis' "Nurse X" is based in part on Miriam Bush, who would have been about the right age and physical description. There are several more MPs described guarding the hangar, to go along with some previous accounts, such as from Sgt. Melvin Brown. Pvt. Francis Cassidy told his wife, Sarah Mounce, of seeing the bodies inside. Wanda Lida said her husband, Cpl. Robert J. Lida, said he guarded the hangar and observed wreckage and small bodies inside being prepared for shipment. Several more witnesses to the heavily guarded B-29 crate flight from Roswell to Fort Worth are provided. We already knew about Robert Slusher and 'Tim', here publicly identified as Lloyd Thompson. One, S. Sgt. Arthur Osepchook, like the other men, was sure something very important was inside the crate. One interesting statement of his is that when they got back to Roswell they were debriefed and told there were no such things as flying saucers and that a crash of one didn't happen. Two MPs described how they had guarded the plane as it was being loaded over the bomb pit. One described how the pit was wrapped with a double layer of fabric to prevent anyone from seeing in. He had to patrol blind between the inner and outer layer of cloth. Perhaps the most interesting new B-29 flight account came from Blanche Wahnee, daughter of Capt. Meyers Wahnee. She said her father told the family that the Roswell Incident was true in the last year of his life. A high-level security officer, he was flown in from Fort Simmons in Colorado to Roswell to oversee the transport of a "Top Secret item" from Roswell to Fort Worth on a special B-29 flight. The item was a single, large, wooden crate that Wahnee was to accompany as a security guard in the bomb bay. He said it contained the alien bodies recovered near Roswell. As did a few other witnesses in the book, he also said there were three sites. Three sites? Well of course the Brazel debris field, the body/craft site north of Roswell described by Haut and other witnesses, but what was the third site? According to Carey and Schmitt, this was yet another body site near the Brazel debris field. The evidence for this is thinner. There is the Frank Joyce story of Brazel coming to town in a highly stressed state and describing very smelly non-human bodies to him in addition to the large debris field. They also mention young Dee Proctor, who the Proctor family said was with Brazel when he made his debris field discovery, but also reported he had seen something else that had severely traumatized him. He never said exactly what it was, but he took his mother Loretta to the spot in the 1994 when he thought she might be dying. C & S say the story of the Brazel debris field had already circulated widely in the Corona area and many ranchers and rancher kids already knew about it before Brazel reported it. One of these kids was Sydney 'Jack' Wright. He told them that he and two other rancher children had gotten there too. They finally got him to state that, "There were bodies small bodies with big heads and eyes. And Mack was there too. We couldn't get away from there fast enough." Another perhaps related account came from the widow of Sgt. LeRoy, another MP. She said he was called away one evening to go to a crash site outside of Corona "to help load the bodies." When he returned home the next morning, he had a horrible stench on his clothes. She burned the clothes, but the horrible smell lingered on his body for another two weeks. Carey and Schmitt feel that under the circumstances, Jesse Marcel must have seen the bodies too when Brazel took them back to the ranch and debris field. They cite two witnesses who said Marcel did briefly mention seeing the bodies, one a relative, Sue Marcel Methane, who said he told her shortly before he died in 1986. Another was Tech Sergeant Hershel Grice, a ground maintenance crew chief, but who also was a member of Marcel's intelligence team. Grice described Marcel as a "straight arrow." (Haut described him to me this way also. Grice said Marcel described the bodies as "white, rubbery figures." There are numerous other witness accounts presented in the book, some already well-known in the Roswell literature, some new. I've covered most of the major new ones here. One of the more interesting remaining ones came from four sons of Lt. Col. Marion M. Magruder, a legendary WWII Marine aviation commander. According to them, on his deathbed, he confessed to seeing crash wreckage and a live alien at Wright Field two weeks after the incident in mid-to-late July 1947. He had just started Air War College at Maxwell Field, Montgomery, Alabama, attended by elite high officers who the various services considered to be the future military leaders. They were flown up to Wright Field to get their opinion on an urgent matter. They were then told about the recovery of an extraterrestrial spaceship that had crashed near Roswell, examined wreckage, and then were led to another room and shown a surviving alien. Mike Magruder said his father described the "creature" as under 5 feet tall, "human-like" but with longer arms, larger eyes, and an oversized, hairless head. It had a slit for a mouth and two holes but no appendages for a nose and ears - the standard 'grey' description. There was no question in his mind that it "came from another planet." A number of other military witness accounts center around rumors running rampant at the base of the flying saucer and bodies, of something very big going on, a lot of security, severe warnings to keep their mouths shut, and the base being in lockdown. Some examples were other members of the 603rd Air Engineering Squadron that witness Fulford was in. PFC Eugene C. Helnes: "It was definitely not a balloon. ...I know fellows who were out at the site to clean it up. All the talk was of a crashed saucer — right up to the time that I left the base in mid-1949." Sgt. Harvie L. Davis: "Stories were going around, and I don't doubt the people involved. I believe that it was a UFO." John Bunch: "Everything was hush-hush. We all knew something was going on, but we didn't know what. A lot of planes were coming in and going out, and the airstrip was shut down for a period. The base went into lockdown, and they checked us real close going in and out." So there you have it, a whole bunch of witness stories to chew over, including various live alien ones. The description of the main crash object is different here, having changed from a heal- shaped or bat-wing shape into an egg-shape from several witnesses, and also appearing to be a little smaller than previously described. Haut, e.g., in his affidavit described it as about 15 feet long, and Fulford described the tarped object on the truck as about the size of a VW Beetle. Alien body descriptions are impressive in their consistency: large heads, large eyes, small bodies, slit for mouths, two holes for nose and ears, usually greyish or brownish. I am also very impressed with the consistency of the accounts as they often neatly fit together into a cross-corroborating narrative of what happened, which I've tried to indicate in the presentation of the various witness accounts. It is also hard not to be impressed with the shear numbers of witnesses that have been compiled. Can all of them be lying? Would a Mogul balloon cause this? I have some quibbles about the organization and writing up of some accounts in the book. Tables summarizing witnesses would have been very useful. There are very large numbers of them to keep track of and they are often scattered throughout the book. However, in general this is a very impressive body of testimony that Carey and Schmitt have collected and has given me a lot of things to think about. Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast See: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ UFO UpDates - Toronto - ufoupdates@virtuallystrange.net A UFO & Related Phenomena E-Mail List operated by Errol Bruce-Knapp
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By Gene Byrd
Jun 22, 2007-A UFO that was described as being a "mile wide" has been spotted over the skies of the Channel Islands. Ten years ago, a "mile wide" UFO was spotted over the skies of Phoenix, Arizona by hundreds of people as well. According to a report from "This is London," Aurigny Airlines captain Ray Bowyer, 50, flying close to Alderney first spotted the object, described as "a cigar-shaped brilliant white light". Mile Wide UFO Spotted by Airline Pilot Over the Channel Islands (Similar to this 1999 sighting) The report from the paper also notes that the sighting was so spectacular that the pilot tried to get a better look at the unidentified object and viewed it through binoculars he had with hin on the flight deck. *** He tells the paper: "It was a very sharp, thin yellow object with a green area. It was 2,000ft up and stationary. I thought it was about 10 miles away, although I later realised it was approximately 40 miles from us. At first, I thought it was the size of a [Boeing] 737. "But it must have been much bigger because of how far away it was. It could have been as much as a mile wide." He adds, "I'm certainly not saying that it was something of another world. All I'm saying is that I have never seen anything like it before in all my years of flying." *** TIL adds that others spotted the object as well. The object was confirmed by an unnamed pilot with the Blue Islands airline and passengers Kate and John Russell. John, 74, said "I saw an orange light. It was like an elongated oval".
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3:40 PM 6/17/2007-By Billy Cox
Depending on who you read, the number of registered lobbyists in Washington, D.C., is between 11,000 and 39,402. Don’t ask. What you can take to the bank is this: Only one of them is trying to persuade Congress to pry the lid of secrecy off UFOs. Predictably, he doesn’t have a whole lot of bribe money , er, spending money, to toss around. His name is Stephen Bassett, and he’s the executive director of the Extraterrestrial Phenomena Political Action Committee, or X-PPAC, at wwww.x-ppac.org. Not a lot of water in that desert so far. During his first year in office, President George W. Bush signaled his contempt for disclosing even the most innocuous formalities of history with Executive Order 13233. That one revoked the Presidential Records Act of 1978, a congressionally mandated, Watergate-era reform allowing public access to most presidential papers a dozen years after the end of any given regime. While waiting for the Bush-Cheney term to expire, Bassett puts the best odds for UFO openness in the next administration on a Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson ticket. The Clintons flirted with the issue in the 1990s, even meeting with Laurance Rockefeller at a time when the late billionaire was distributing UFO briefing papers in political circles. Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell revealed in his autobiography how Bill Clinton had dispatched him on an unsuccessful mission to bring new details to light. In 2002, former Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta held a press conference demanding the U.S. “open the books on questions that have remained in the dark on the question of government investigations of UFOs.” And just last year, responding to the longstanding skepticism by his fellow New Mexicans of government explanations about an alleged crash in 1947, Richardson contributed his own advocacy for openness to a book called “The Roswell Dig Diaries”: “It would help everyone if the U.S. government disclosed everything it knows . . . The American people can handle the truth, no matter how bizarre or mundane, and contrary to what you see in the movies.” No doubt the media will be all over this stuff in the primaries.
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This is in reply to our web page query, What is the Object in Lunar Photograph?
I recognized this forgotten piece of hardware that was sent to the Moon in the mid-60's. It is "Surveyor" and I recognized it by its mast. The solar panels are pointed straight up and you cannot see them. NASA tried to communicate with it in the late '70's to see if it still worked and it did not. The main battery cells gave out. Attached, is a picture of it. Thanks to nexgen for sending us the information...
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PRESS RELEASE-Date Released: Monday, June 4, 2007Source: University of Wisconsin-Madison by Terry Devitt With the help of a $6.5 million grant from NASA, Wisconsin researchers will join the hunt for extraterrestrial life and early life on Earth by developing techniques and instruments to read the chemical signatures living organisms leave in rocks and minerals. With the new award, University of Wisconsin-Madison scientists and their collaborators from the University of Georgia and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) will become a key part of NASA's Astrobiology Institute. "The long-term goal is to understand when life began on Earth, what are the criteria for determining that life existed on another planetary body," says Clark Johnson, the UW-Madison professor of geology and geophysics leading the new effort. "What we're looking for is the signature of past life as preserved in minerals." If life existed elsewhere in our solar system or beyond, odds are it would have been single-celled organisms such as bacteria, which can leave a chemical trail preserved in stone. Such is the case with microbes on Earth. Scientists have developed a bevy of techniques to read those chemical signatures to understand something about life that existed on Earth hundreds of millions or even billions of years ago. Earth, in fact, will be the laboratory for the new initiative as researchers seek to refine their understanding of the chemical impressions left by ancient bacteria and other microorganisms. Such a baseline will give scientists an interpretive framework for analyzing samples from Mars and other places beyond our planet that may have once harbored life. Such context was lacking with the Allan Hills meteorite, a suspected piece of Mars found in Antarctica and theorized to be one of the oldest relics of our solar system at 4.5 billion years old. The meteorite made news in 1996 with the publication of a paper suggesting that tiny features in the rock might be artifacts of ancient Martian life. That evidence, it turns out, is now discounted by most scientists. Thus, any future sample purported to harbor evidence of extraterrestrial life will be the subject of intense scientific scrutiny. "The bar is really high," says Johnson. "The (scientific) community is not going to believe it unless the interpretive framework behind it is fully developed." To help achieve that, Johnson's group plans an isotopic approach as a way to ferret out the signatures of life from rocks that may be hundreds of millions or billions of years old. Most elements have different masses called isotopes, and very subtle changes can occur during biological reactions. "Geologists are good at going back in time, and we will explore the isotopes in very ancient rocks," Johnson explains. The allure of chemical isotopes as biosignatures, Johnson says, resides not only in their ability to identify the chemical fossils of past life, but also in their great durability. He explains that any sample will have a complicated history and may have endured many changes over long periods of time. For example, minerals from another planet may have been exposed to large doses of ultraviolet radiation for billions of years, or geologic processes that can potentially change their composition. But the isotopic makeup of elements that were cycled by living creatures, Johnson notes, tend to resist such change. His group will first compile an inventory of organic materials such as carbon, and in simulated planetary environments, test their survivability to assemble a plausible inventory of things to look for on another planet. "We'll look for terrestrial analogs that we can really pull apart," says Johnson. In recent years, scientists have found numerous Earthbound microbes that live in extremely hot and chemically forbidding environments, and it has been long known that microbial life can live off of and process elements such as iron. Knowing the kinds of signatures they leave behind will be a big help when samples from other planets become the subject of scientific scrutiny. The new project, Johnson hopes, will exert influence on future NASA missions. Ultimately, his group will help with the development of a miniature mass spectrometer and other instruments that could be deployed by a probe to search for signs of past life on Mars or other planets.
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Roswell Smoking Gun, the Ramey Memo
Barely noticeable in one of the 1947 photos and clutched in Gen. Ramey's left hand is a slip of paper (boxed in red). Probably unwittingly, Gen. Ramey had the text side facing towards the camera, allowing the text on this paper to be photographed.
When blown up and analyzed, it tells a remarkably different story of events from the one Ramey or contemporary Air Force counter-intelligence wants you to believe.
The first paragraph describes what had been found. Ramey starts by acknowledging "THAT A 'DISK' IS NEXT NEW FIND." He then adds that "THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK" and something else (possibly just "A WRECK") had also been found near the recovery "OPERATION AT THE 'RANCH'." At the end it states that "YOU" (i.e. Gen. Vandenberg) had ordered the "victims" and/or the wreckage "FORWARDED" to "FORT WORTH, TEX."
In the second paragraph, Ramey describes how the situation was being handled. Ramey first states that something "IN THE 'DISC'", probably the bodies of the "forwarded" "victims" (and possibly termed "AVIATORS") would be flown by a B-29 Special Transport or C-47 to the "A1" (personnel director) of some "8TH ARMY****" division, most likely the head flight surgeon at Fort Worth given the context. Wright Field, Ohio, home of the AAF's aeronautical labs, was to assess the Roswell crash object (possibly referred to as an "AIRFOIL").
Finally Ramey outlines how the situation was being treated publicly and how they were going to cover it up. First he assures Vandenberg that the earlier highly inflammatory Roswell base press release (referred to as the "MISSTATE MEANING OF STORY") was the work of an Army counter-intelligence team ("CIC/TEAM"), but that the "NEXT SENT OUT PR" (Press Release) would be "OF WEATHER BALLOONS."
Ramey finishes with the statement that the weather balloon story might be better accepted if they also added weather balloon radar target demonstrations. This apparently was the impetus for the national debunking campaign using the devices that followed over the next few days.
This will inevitably prompt comments from die-hard skeptics that a full "take" on the Ramey message is strictly one's own interpretation. However, there are various keywords and phrases that can be readily seen by anyone, even in lower resolution scans of the message first analyzed in 1999 by a number of people. These keywords and phrases unambiguously prove that there is no truth whatsoever to the various Air Force "explanations," be they the original 1947 "weather balloon" story, or the Air Forces updated "Mogul balloon" and "crash dummies."
Far and away the most important word of the entire message is "VICTIMS" on the third line (part of phrase "THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK"). If there were "VICTIMS", then this was no Mogul balloon crash. As the Air Force Roswell report itself noted (using splendid circular reasoning) reports of bodies being recovered couldn't be true because the crash was of a Mogul balloon, which had "no 'alien' passengers therein."
Of course Ramey's mention of "VICTIMS" in 1947 also disproves the already preposterous "crash dummies" theory. The only way these 1950's crash dummies could be "victims" is if they also time-warped back to 1947.
Another easily seen keyword and phrase is "DISC" and "IN THE 'DISC" on the fifth line. Ramey is clearly describing the crash object as a "DISC", not as a "weather balloon", or a "Mogul" or a "radar target" or a "RAWIN" (jargon term for a radar wind target), or any other word or phase that in any way suggests some sort of balloon or balloon paraphenalia. In fact, the only mention of "weather balloons" and "RAWIN" targets comes at the very end of the message in the context of issued public statements and damage-control.
(The word "DISK" is also used on the first line in reference to what had been found, but this instance of the word is not so easily seen.)
Furthermore, the message refers to the subsequent shipment of something "IN the disc." Neither balloons nor the two-dimensional, flimsy radar kites had anything "inside" that could be shipped. If Ramey had been referring to some piece of balloon payload equipment, then the phrase should have begun with "attached to" or "suspended from", or "with", etc. In speaking of "THE VICTIMS OF THE WRECK",, using the word "DISC" for the crash object, and shipping something "IN THE DISC", Ramey is clearly referring to something other than a balloon crash. The simplest interpretation is to take the words literally. There is no reason for Gen. Ramey to be describing events abstractly in a secret communication to his superiors. This was the actually crash of a so-called "flying disk" craft with a dead crew found on the inside, as corroborated by the testimony of military and civilian witnesses.
Ramey is quite explicit about the existence of bodies and the crash object being a "disc." The only thing not made explicit in the message is the exact nature of the bodies or "disc." Ramey probably does not refer to the bodies as "nonhuman," "alien," or some similar term. Nor does he use terms like "spaceship," "craft of unknown origin," etc. to describe the "disc."
Among the theories about the Roswell incident is that this was the crash of some highly secretive government experimental craft piloted by a human crew. However, nobody has ever presented evidence that such an experimental disk-like craft ever existed or was tested in New Mexico at that time. It also seems highly unlikely that even a highly secret craft but with half-century-old technology would still be kept secret.
Further, it makes no sense that the government would be completely unaware of the crash of one of their own craft until some sheep rancher came into town to report it.
The same logic applies to the crash of something more conventional, such as a bomber carrying nuclear weapons (another theory sometimes proposed). The military would not wait for a local rancher to tell them about it nor would there be any need for continued secrecy into the present day. (Similar nuclear accidents have been declassified and are now in the public record.) And why would Gen. Ramey call it a "disc"?
Finally, both the Air Force and General Accounting Office (investigating on behalf of Congressman Schiff) in 1995 reported that air crash records revealed no plane crashes in that area during that time frame that could possibly explain the Roswell incident. In brief, there is simply no evidence for the crash of any conventional or experimental aircraft.
Telegram held in General Ramey's hand provides smoking gun proof of a "disk" crash and the recovery of "the victims of the wreck"
Roswell Case Overview
The Public "Roswell Incident"
GEN. RAMEY'S MEMO
The Air Force claimed in their 1994/95 Roswell Report that a government photoanalysis lab which they refused to identify ("a national level organization") was unable to "visualize" any "details" in the Ramey memo from first generation prints and negative copies even after digitizing (computer scanning) supposedly because of "insufficient quality." As you look at higher resolution scans readily available to civilians from similar prints, how much "truth" do you suspect was in the Air Force statement?
(last update, 06-23-07)
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06-15-07-We went to Cherry Creek Reservoir last night June 15,2007 to fish and watch the stars. At Exactly 11:46 PM my husband and I both observed an object coming from the south headed northeastern at a fairly reasonable rate of speed much like you would think a plane would fly we both commented that it was higher in the sky than a plane would be but very much visible as it was blinking light in rows. It seemed to be a cone shape or a triangle as the one light on the bottom would blink and go out then two above it would come on and blink and go out and then the three on the top would come on and blink and go off and it would start with the one light again and proceed to go through the two three one two three, they would bleed together with the brightness of the lights I found myself counting one two three one two three one two three as it blinked its way across the night sky with no sound. copyright-source: www.mufon.com |
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June 2007-An about.com reader-Queens-2007-At 10:30 PM, witness took dog to backyard. The night was clear. Witness saw two UFOs, one behind the other. The two objects were not lit, but had a dark pinkish color at the bottom.
Witness is a student pilot with 80 hours of flight time, and is much aware of FAA rules for running lights, etc. Witness lives about 5 miles from Kennedy Airport, and I am sure the objects would be on their scopes Finally the one object in the back sped up until the two objects merged and then they disappeared. source: http://ufos.about.com |
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06-11-From my porch on the island of Careneros I spotted a very clear and bright semi-circle of red lights around a central white light, tilted at an angle, to the south. It seemed as if the remainder of the circle was behind the foothills of the mainland. The red lights were blinking in a seemingly random pattern. The lights did not move. The area is jungle and I have never seen any light there before.
I watched for about half an hour and when I checked again an hour later they were gone. My wife and I observed the lights with binoculars set on our porch railing. The clarity and the strength of the light was atypical of home or vehicle lighting and the scale of the separation of the lights suggests a large area perhaps several hundred feet. The brightness and clarity of the lights was what first attracted my attention. There was no noise.copyright-source: www.mufon.com |
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06-10-I was sitting in my second story living room looking out through
a sliding door window at the afternoon sky on June 9th 2007 or
possibly June 10th 2007 when I noticed a very shiny object moving in
the sky slowly like a helicopter. I was looking north east over
the port of Galveston and it moved in a straight path upwards
and to the side (I can't remember if it was right or left). its cross section was like a perfectly level and symmetrical trapezoid and I had the feeling it might be a cylinder with a vertical axis and the top diameter about 20% smaller than the bottom diameter. I watched it about 3 or 4 minutes skeptically until I finally decided to get my camera to take a look through the zoom lens. By the time I got back with my camera I couldn't see the object. Its cross section was very small like an aspirin at arm's length or even smaller. I didn't have much of a reaction to the sighting other than casual interest like "that sure is weird looking." copyright-source: www.mufon.com |
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06-17-07-Nova Scotia-At about 6 PM, I was golfing in my neighbors yard when about ten people on the other side of the yard pointed out a shiny black metallic object hovering at an altitude of about 750-1000 ft. When I saw the object it was very close almost directly overhead and i could see most of its details. It had no visible openings and no contrail behind it also it didn't make a sound. At first the object started moving to my left a picked up speed and then abruptly turned around and went in the other direction. At this time I ran back to my house to get my camera and by the time I got back it was gone. I asked the people who saw it where it went and they said it just vanished into thin air. A couple of minutes later the police came up and asked us what we saw. Also the object appeared to ""wobble" at low speed but gained stability when it picked up speed.source: canada ufo groups |
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06-05-07-Winnipeg, Manitoba-Three people were in a backyard enjoying the warm evening when they saw a formation of 5 white lights, arranged as on the leading edge of a wedge or
triangle, moving "faster than a commercial airplane." The witnesses were
baffled because the lights made no noise whatsoever, and appeared to be
relatively low in the sky. In fact, one witness' view was partially
blocked by trees. The formation moved in a straight line together W to E,
in the southern sky. Stars were visible in the clear night sky. The
formation was lost to sight after 10 seconds. source: canada ufo groups
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