MUFON Monthy Meeting: My Name is Jim and 'I Was Abducted By An Alien'
Published: July 1 2011
By Piya Sinha-Roy
A well-dressed Jim Moroney stood at a podium at the Unitarian Universalist Church in Studio City one recent evening and said: "I was abducted by an alien. I mean, how do you tell someone you're dating that you were abducted by aliens?"
The native Canadian goes on to describe how late one evening in 1987, at the age of 27, while on a drive between Edmonton and Ontario, he and his car were beamed up, so to speak, onto a spacecraft by aliens 3 feet tall. They spoke to him in perfect English.
Moroney's audience is unfazed, which is not surprising considering he is appearing at the monthly meeting of Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). The 60 or so people gathered here tonight include UFO enthusiasts, film and television researchers, ex-military employees and newcomers.
They most certainly are not skeptics.
Steve Murillo, director of MUFON's Los Angeles chapter, explains. "Some people have had direct experience, others have had sightings, and then some people haven't had sightings or experiences at all but believe in the phenomenon for some reason or the other, so are here to get answers.
"Once you've seen something, you realize that it's all real," Murillo continues. "Up till that point, you think it's a bunch of malarkey and crazy people seeing things in the sky. But when you've had a profound real sighting, your world changes."
Among other things, you might become fearful. Nan, a MUFON member in her 50s, will not reveal her full identity to a reporter. "Are you with the government?" she demands, covering her mouth to ward off bacterial infections. "Don't take any pictures of me."
A longtime resident of Studio City, Nan became interested in the extraterrestrial more than 30 years ago, when she saw a mysterious green-lit object in the sky by the Hollywood Sign. Since then, her experiences have grown to include direct alien communication through telepathy.
"I don't know how many races they have, I don't know about the one that contacted me, but just know that they're very telepathic and they know things," Nan says quietly, pulling her baseball cap down low over her eyes.
In April 2011, the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI) Institute announced that it was forced by a lack of government funding to put its Allen Telescope Array into hibernation. The program, located in the Lassen National Forest, consisted of 42 radio dishes in a field listening for extraterrestrial signals, in an attempt to find new evidence of life in the universe.
That news was a blow to UFO hunters in Southern California, where MUFON received more than 200 reports of sightings last year.
Alex Mistretta is director of investigations for MUFON L.A. He has a makeshift office in his Mid-City studio apartment, with a replica of the iconic "I Want to Believe" poster from Agent Mulder's desk on The X-Files.
Mistretta says he recently investigated a case in which two witnesses in Malibu reported seeing a craft exit the ocean. Both witnesses immediately called the police; within moments, a vehicle carrying a few men turned up at the scene and questioned them for hours.
"I checked with my sources at the FBI, and there's no way for that call to be directed to the FBI," Mistretta tells a reporter excitedly. "The call would have gone to the Highway Patrol, they should have been first on the scene.
"My source said that there was no way that those men were FBI." In other words, they were from some secret arm of the government.
Murillo and Mistretta are interested in exploring Pine Mountain, a community hidden in the Los Padres National Forest about 100 miles north of L.A. They believe it's a hotbed of UFO sightings.
One day recently, Frankie Sanchez, honorary mayor and resident of Pine Mountain, pointed out the golf course where a resident saw "little people" come out of a spacecraft. "We see lights with no sound move across the sky at night, and you just have to let it go," Sanchez says. "Who are you going to believe about what it was?"
The town has three airbases within 150 miles: Vandenberg Air Force Base approximately 100 miles west, Edwards Air Force Base about 100 miles east and Lemoore Naval Air Station approximately 150 miles north. Could the sightings be debunked as military crafts?
Longtime resident Linda Scheimberg doesn't think so. She saw an oval object in the sky on the evening of Feb. 10, 2010, descending from south to north silently, with bright white lights and glowing green sides.
"It was not a plane, or a jet or a helicopter," Scheimberg says. "I don't know what it was, but it was not anything like I've ever seen before."
Vandenberg AFB confirmed to the Weekly that the craft wasn't theirs. Edwards AFB was unable to give a definite answer but said it was highly unlikely to be one of their crafts. Lemoore did not respond to inquiries.
Such are the tortures of UFO hunters.
"I quit MUFON once and asked them to leave me alone, because I was so frustrated as I was spending so much time driving around everywhere for nothing," Mistretta says. "It's a very devious field where it wants to show itself, but it doesn't. It teases you."
Back at the MUFON meeting, Moroney wraps up his speech, the million-dollar question awaiting him at the end.
"Of course, people ask if I was anally probed," Moroney says with a laugh.
UFO History 1968: Scientists Call for Laughter to Stop over UFOs
Published: August 2, 2011
By Cherlyn Gardner Strong
On July 30, 1968, a newspaper headline read: “Scientists Warn: Stop Laughing at UFOs“.
That United Press International headline, published 43 years ago, referenced the statements made by a group of six scientists. The scientists gathered for the Hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress on July 29, 1968.
Those scientists were:
•Dr. J. Allen Hynek, head of the Department of Astronomy, Northwestern University
•Dr. James E. McDonald, senior physicist, the Institute of Atmospheric Physics, the University of Arizona
•Dr. Carl Sagan, Department of Astronomy and Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, Cornell University
•Dr. Robert L. Hall, head of the Department of Sociology, University of Illinois at Chicago;
•Dr. James A. Harder, associate professor of civil engineering, University of California at Berkeley, and;
•Dr. Robert M. L. Baker, Jr., Computer Sciences Corp. and Department of Engineering, UCLA
The scientists all presented their cases regarding the UFO phenomena. They did not all agree with the hypothesis that UFOs were extraterrestrial craft. They did agree, however, that it was time to stop laughing at UFOs and to start long-term government backed programs to understand the phenomena.
The University of Arizona’s Dr. James E. McDonald, in particular, gained much attention in the press over various statements he made at the symposium. He argued that UFOs represented “an intriguing, pressing and unsolved mystery which had not been adequately studied by science.”
During a the Symposium in Washington, D.C., McDonald had already grown tired various UFO explanations. He argued that the balloon hypothesis was “strained beyond the breaking point.”
Additionally, McDonald stated that there was “a puzzling and slightly disturbing coincidence” between the 1965 Northeast blackout and a rash of UFO sightings. McDonald believed in the extraterrestrial hypothesis.
Dr. Carl Sagan, however did not. Sagan’s presentation included the statement: “The interest in unidentified flying objects derives, perhaps, not so much from scientific curiosity as from unfulfilled religious needs. "Flying saucers serve, for some, to replace the gods that science has deposed.
"With their distant and exotic worlds and their pseudoscientific overlay, the contact accounts are acceptable to many people who reject the older religious frameworks. But precisely because people desire so intensely that unidentified flying objects be of benign, intelligent, and extraterrestrial origin, honesty requires that, in evaluating the observations, we accept only the most rigorous logic and the most convincing evidence.
"At the present time, there is no evidence that unambiguously connects the various flying saucer sightings and contact tales with extraterrestrial intelligence.”
Dr. J. Allen Hynek’s presentation included the statement: “As scientists, we may honestly wish to see whether there is any scientific paydirt in this international UFO phenomenon. But to discover this paydirt we must devote serious study to UFOs. To make serious study possible, however, requires recruiting competent scientists, engineers, and technical people, as well as psychologists and sociologists.”
Why, though, did the press focus so intently on McDonald’s statements?
Forty-three years later, the UFO phenomena still draws laughter from most members of the media.
Leslie Kean, who has never seen a UFO, spent 10 years researching UFO incidents through the trained eye of an investigative journalist. Kean is the author of New York Times bestseller: UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record. Her book, released one year ago, was a result of ten years of in-depth research into the UFO phenomenon. Kean’s book will be released in paperback tomorrow.
Billy Cox, who writes for the Sarasota Herald-Tribune isn’t laughing at UFOs either. He maintains a blog called: Devoid: The Mainstream Media’s Lonely UFO Web Log.
Funny thing is that respectable and credible people are coming forward to openly discuss UFOs. Another person who has come forward, who has also never seen a UFO, is Bryce Zabel. Zabel is a former journalist, who started his career at KVOA in Tucson.
Zabel was elected and served for two years as the chairman/CEO of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences in 2001. Many will recall that Zabel rescheduled the Emmy Award show twice after the September 11, 2001 terror attacks. Zabel left office in 2003 due to his eventful tenure in office “feeling like two”.
Last year, his book AD: After Disclosure, co-authored with researcher Richard Dolan, looked at what life would be like if the government ever disclosed the “secrets” about UFOs they are said to be hiding. View our discussion from last year with Zabel on the Tucson Citizen.
Three trained journalists who aren’t laughing: Kean, Cox and Zabel.
Perhaps we have made a little progress in the last 43 years, after all.
Astronomy without a Telescope: The Unlikeliness of Being
Published: August 1, 2011
By Steve Nerlicharticle
The search for extraterrestrial intelligence could be a waste of time according to a recent statistical analysis of the likelihood of life arising spontaneously on habitable-zone exoplanets out there in the wider universe (and when have predictive statistics ever got it wrong?).
History has proved time and again that mathematical modelling is no substitute for a telescope (or other data collection device).
Nonetheless, some theoreticians have recently put forward a statistical analysis which suggests that life is probably very rare in the universe – despite the apparent prevalence of habitable-zone exoplanets, being found by the Kepler mission and other exoplanet search techniques.
You would be right to be skeptical, given the Bayesian analysis undertaken is based on our singular experience of abiogenesis – being the origin of life from non-life, here on Earth. Indeed, the seemingly rapid abiogenesis that occurred on Earth soon after its formation is suggested to be the clinching proof that abiogenesis on habitable-zone exoplanets must be rare. Hmm…
Bayes theorem provides a basis for estimating the likelihood that a prior assumption or hypothesis (e.g. that abiogenesis is common on habitable-zone exoplanets) is correct, using whatever evidence is available. Its usage is nicely demonstrated in solving the Monty Hall problem.
Go here for the detail, but in a nutshell:
There are three doors, one with a car behind it and the other two have goats. You announce which door you will pick – knowing that it carries a 1/3 probability of hiding the car.
Then Monty Hall, who knows where the car is, opens another door to reveal a goat. So, now you know that door always had a zero probability of hiding the car.
So, the likelihood of the remaining door hiding the car carries the remaining 2/3 probability of the system, since there was always an absolute 1/1 probability that the car was behind one of the three doors.
So, it makes more sense for you to open that remaining door, instead of the first one you picked.
In this story, Monty Hall opening the door with a goat represents new data. It doesn’t allow you to definitively determine where the car is, but it does allow you to recalculate the likelihood of your prior hypothesis (that the car is behind the first door you picked) being correct.
Applying Bayesian analysis to the problem of abiogenesis on habitable-zone exoplanets is a bit of a stretch. Speigel and Turner argue that the evidence we have available to us – that life began quite soon after the Earth became habitable – contributes nothing to estimating the likelihood that life arises routinely on habitable-zone exoplanets.
We need to acknowledge the anthropic nature of the observation we are making. We are here after 3.5 billion years of evolution – which has given us the capacity to gather together the evidence that life began here 3.5 billion years ago, shortly after the Earth became habitable. But that is only because this is how things unfolded here on Earth. In the absence of more data, the apparent rapidity of abiogenesis here on Earth could just be a fluke.
This is a fair point, but a largely philosophical one. It informs the subsequent six pages of Spiegel and Turner’s Bayesian analysis, but it is not a conclusion of that analysis.
The authors seek to remind us that interviewing one person and finding that she or he likes baked beans does not allow us to conclude that most people like baked beans. Yes agree, but that’s just statistics – it’s not really Bayesian statistics.
If we are ever able to closely study an exoplanet that has been in a habitable state for 3.5 billion years and discover that either it has life, or that it does not – that will be equivalent to Monty Hall opening another door.
But for now, we might just be a fluke… or we might not be. We need more data.
Family in Wisconsin Sees Elongated Metallic Object
Published: 2:31 PM 7/27/2011
Wisconsin - 07-26-11
We came out of a program at church at 8:09 PM. My 9-year-old daughter spotted a bright object in the sky over the building, to our west.
We watched it for a minute as we walked to our car. The kids got into the car and I stood watching this object advance towards us, going due east, at a steady speed.
The object came into view as a metallic, elongated shape, like a stick or a cigar or a rectangle. It was slender. It continued coming directly over us.
Size would be approximate, as I extend my arm fully, with my thumb and forefinger separated about 3/8th inch. I kept thinking it would blink like an airplane or would have some identifiable markings, but I couldn't make them out like a regular aircraft.
We see quite a few aircraft from Milwaukee, Chicago and Minneapolis so we're familiar with the flight patterns. This object seemed to sail across the sky, at times glinting in the setting sun, and then we watched it disappear into the east-southeast towards Lake Michigan.
About halfway through the sighting, directly above us, I was able to discern what looked like two wings out either side, like a double-wing or bi-plane aircraft.
But this was bigger than any double-wing aircraft I had ever seen, and higher in sky than they would normally fly. This was confirmed by my 7-year-old son who also saw the craft.
I asked him to draw what he saw and he showed a cross-type object, and then said, "But there was another part on top of it that I didn't know how to draw, like another wing."
I thought, Aha! Yes, he saw that too.
My two daughters had a similar experience. The 9-year-old saw it as a whitish-yellowish rectangular-type object, or rather two ends to the object, with a space in the center.
One object was held together by something in the center. My 16-year-old saw a rectangular object, two objects flying front to back, with a space in the center where the wings would be if it were an aircraft (only she didn't see wings), and she said both sections were lit up like incandescent lights (yellowish).
My 7-year-old son and I both saw this cross-type object, rectangular, with the two pieces, but we could see faint "wings" on it, like a bi-wing plane. It would be a safe guess to say the object was segmented.
Others who came out of the building at the same time were also looking at this object as it moved. I made my kids get back out of the car to witness this object.
At that point, a very large commercial-type jet (I'm conjecturing here since I'm not an expert in aircraft) appeared just to our southeast. The object continued to sail along in the sky and this jet seemed to bank away from it, to the southeast, like they were pretty close together in the sky.
The object appeared to be above the jet but it seemed very close, like the jet was avoiding the larger, slender object.
Another mother said, "That's too close for my comfort," or something to that effect.
That's when I realized there were others watching the object. The jet appeared as if out of nowhere and I was surprised it was so close to the ground, much closer than they usually get.
But we have a fly-in locally this week, so there may be a good explanation for why it was so close.
We continued watching the long object as it continued east, heading a bit southeast as it went. The jet had suddenly appeared and afterwards, nobody remembers seeing the jet leave the area; just that it appeared almost overhead, making noise, and then it was gone.
My 9-year-old daughter said she heard the original object making a humming noise, but I don't have the best hearing so I can't discount that. It was pretty high up there.
We lost sight of the object about 8:13 pm CDT as it continued its steady path; east-southeast. There appeared to be a small contrail in the area where we last saw the object.
I was initially not surprised to see an odd object in the sky due to the EAA (Experimental Aircraft Association) fly-in at Oshkosh this week, approximately 25 miles northeast from our location.
I thought it was a glider but realized it was too high up to be a glider. Then I thought it could be a satellite, but it was close enough to see: Every satellite I've ever seen has been a bright dot in the sky at night, but not during the day or even the brighter evening light.
The cross-shape was interesting, but the cross-wings were pretty hard to see and they didn't seem to be there the entire time, if that makes sense.
It definitely was no plane. And the jet that showed up all of a sudden and then nobody remembered watching it fly away is troubling too.
The long, slender object was not heading in the direction of the fly-in.
This is a true and accurate account that my 3 children and I saw this evening. In addition, at least three others in the parking lot with us witnessed this object.
My name is Eric, and I live in Louisville, Kentucky, about 2-3 miles south of Highway 265.
This morning at 3:14 am I stepped out on my apartment balcony that faces south.
I look out to the south-southwest when I go out to smoke. To my surprise I saw a lot of lightning in the distance, but within the lightning, an orange, pulsing light caught my eye.
It was moving easterly very quickly. At first I assumed it was a plane and that its light appeared to be orange maybe because of the haze from the approaching storm.
There are several planes always flying above and around my apartment heading to and from the Louisville airport. After a brief moment, I realized the light was traveling 2-3 times faster than any plane I had previously seen.
But this not why I think it wasn't a plane. As I watched it, the orange light seemed to just stop heading east and rise straight up at the same speed it had been heading east.
I quickly pulled out my cell phone hoping to catch it on video, but as I pulled my cell phone out of my pocket the light pulsed once more and then disappeared.
I am a UFO sceptic, I've always wanted to see a UFO, but have never claimed to have or cried wolf about seeing one before.
I'm hoping maybe you can help me; either identify what I saw or maybe you will have received other reports of my strange sighting.
I hope to hear from you soon and hopefully hear an explanation.
Farmer Edwin Fuhr's Strange Sighting in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
Published: 4:54 PM 6/30/2004
Langenburg, Saskatchewan, Canada - September 1, 1974
From the Saskatoon Star Phoenix - June 13, 1992
Some residents of Langenburg a farming community about 70 kilometers southeast of Yorkton, believe they can create a tourist attraction based on an eerie event that occurred in a farmer’s field near the town in 1974.
On Sept. 1 1974, the skies were grey and threatening, but Edwin Fuhr was on his swather in a field of rapeseed (now called canola).
Moving up a small incline, he glanced up to make sure he would skirt a grassy, dried out slough just ahead when he spied something made of metal in the grass.
His first thought was that someone was playing a joke on him or had dumped junk in the old slough.
As the swather moved up the incline, the slough came into full view. The metallic “something” was one of five machines rotating rapidly and hovering just above the grass.
Fuhr, startled, stopped his swather, climbed down and took a few steps toward the hovering machines. Then, overcome with fear, he stopped and began slowly to ease back to his idling swather.
The machines continued to hover and spin, then slowly lifted. About 100 feet above ground, they maneuvered into an echelon formation and rose at a much greater speed. Each vented a brief puff of smoke and in seconds. Disappeared over the horizon.
At the controls of his swather, Fuhr was almost paralyzed with fright and barely able to put the machine into gear. At lunch, he was unable to eat. When he inspected the site where the strange visitors had been, he saw five circular depressions.
Most of the tall grass was pressed down, and, in places, was twisted as it would be by a spinning object. The circles were exactly 11 feet (3.3 meters) in diameter and there was unflattened grass in the centre.
The shaken farmer reported the incident to the RCMP. In a few days, a newspaper story brought hordes of curiosity seekers to the farm, all expecting to see the landing site. Fuhr could not allow that because the estimated 3,000 people who arrived would have pulverized his crop.
Fuhr said the mystery machines were made of what looked like stainless steel, but had a “brushed” finish. Each was about five feet (1.5 metres) high at the peak of its dome-like structure.
There were no windows or portholes, no antennae or other projecting parts except something resembling a short exhaust pipe, the source of the vapor the objects emitted as they rose through the overcast.
The Centre for UFO Studies in Illinois sent a specialist to the farm and he found no reason to dispute Fuhr’s report.
Cpl. Ron Morier of the RCMP concluded that the five circles were caused by “something exerting what had to be heavy exhaust or air pressure. Whatever was in there came out of the air and departed the same way, as far as I could tell.”
Edwin Fuhr still lives in Langenburg where he’s regarded as a dependable, quiet spoken citizen not given to inventing tall tales. As one businessman said at the time of the incident, ”If that’s what Edwin says he saw, that’s what Edwin saw.”
Today, portions of the rings made by the strange machines are still visible on his land. About three years ago, there was a report of two UFOs that hovered briefly over Langenburg.
From the Star Phoenix - September 10, 1974
Saucer sighted, no hoax - RCMP
LANGENBURG (CP) - RCMP Constable Ron Morier says he doesn't think a district farmer is trying to pull a hoax with his claims of seeing saucer-shaped objects hovering about a foot over a slough near his rapeseed field six miles north of here.
Edwin Fuhr, 36, claims five stainless steel objects stayed for 15 minutes before leaving. He says there were depressions in the foot-high grass about 11 feet in diameter where they had been.
Constable Morier visited the farm Monday in this community 120 miles northwest of Regina for a first-hand look.
"They took me out to where they'd seen these things in the grass. I saw the rings..." "Something was there and I doubt it was a hoax. There was no indication anything had been wheeled in or out and Mr. Fuhr seemed genuinely scared."
Constable Morier took photographs and measurements and sent his information to the National Research Council in Ottawa.
"Some farmers are afraid to work in their fields," the Constable said, "At least that's what I hear on coffee row."
Mr. Fuhr says he got down from his swather and moved to within 15 feet of the objects.
"All of a sudden I noticed the grass was moving... turning near this thing. I just watched it for about two minutes and then noticed the whole thing was turning."
"I backed up slow. I wasn't going to turn my back on the thing. When I got back to the swather, I noticed there were another four to the left of me, all revolving. I just froze on the seat and didn't move."
"I was terrified. I froze. I couldn't do anything."
"Then they took off (after 15 minutes)... straight up. There was a grey vapor coming from underneath them and a strong wind. I had to hang on to my hat and it knocked the rape down."
It took two minutes for the objects to disappear into the clouds and another two minutes for Mr. Fuhr to come down from his swather.
"I wanted to be sure they were gone."
He then explained the circular depressions left by the objects. "I felt the grass to see if it was warm. There was nothing you could feel and there wasn't any smell."